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/di/ ~ Self Med Question
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Hey /trap/,

I just started self medding with a half dose of 100 mg spiro 2mg estradiol both orally. I've been taking them once per day. Now I've heard that it's a good idea to take them split up into halves every 12 hours. However, how much does it really matter? I'm thinking about ramping things up to 200/4 soon and it might be more convenient if I could just take them after waking up. Anyone know? Thanks.

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please dont self medicate, is possible in your country to get medicated by a professional?? please, dont understimate this drugs, they are extremelly powerful, you should be in periodic supervision on your Hormone level from a endocrygnologist.

none can tell you how much storgen or spironolactone you should take other than a trained professional who takes a LOT of factors in consideration ( FSH, LH, STRADIOL, TESTOSTERONE, PROLACTINE, LIPIDS, WEIGHT) and more, this information no one can tell you.

my advise is that if its possible in your country to get a doctor, please do it.


Thanks for the advice but I'm probably not going to heed it for now. I don't want to wait for a doctor and whatever. Maybe some time I will check with one though, but really I don't even know how to "talk to a doctor". How are you supposed to just "talk to a doctor"? I don't know the procedure for doing so and I don't care to wait until I know before starting HRT. I'd just like an answer.


Stupid question but where do you get spiro/estradiol? Just off some shady site?



I've been self medding for two years.



Not OP, but where would one get hormones?
>inb4 they dangerous
I know what I am doing
>Biology Degree


or inhousepharmacy

So, anybody know about this?

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they are dangerous, and all the scientist in the world will agree with me

and your biology deegree is meaningless! you can have a stronomy degree but that does not allow you to build a rocket and visit the moon.

all of you that are willing to put your life on risk becuase its "embarrasing" to go to the doctor, are complete idiots, i can uderstand self meddin, in countries where it would be impossible otherwise, but if its only that you are embarrased, then you dont deserve to be a woman, sorry, but you need to be ready to get embarrased when you go out and people will laugh at you and you will feel even worse things than just embarrasment.



You have no idea how fucking tempting it is for some people. In my area there's a one year and up waiting line to talk with either of the 2 doctors. It's beyond bullshit.

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i dont have idea?? i had to wait for 3 years!! becuase that how much it took me to get a job to pay my HRT, as a man with long hair its almost impossible to get a job here, to the point that i considered prostitution.

Like i said, my advise is that if in your country you can get HRT, do it! but if getting HRT in your country is impossible, then i will support you on self medication.

if in your country is takes 1+ year to talk to a doctor, then is up to you, start with a doctor or not, but the least you can do, is at least start with a little dose, and then start for real, with doctor supervision. all i can do it tell you whats morally correct, and give you the best advise possible, is up to you. its like giving sex ED instead of sexual abtinence only wich is a wrong advice.


I think you're assuming too much by saying the reason is fear of embarrassment. OP here, my reason isn't embarrassment, I just don't feel like paying for or know how to set up the process of doing it. I think you shouldn't be so quick to criticize all other ways of getting HRT than the way you personally did. You waited 3 years, some people don't want to. Seems like the loudest critics of self med are those who never did it themselves.

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you can or not wait, whats im telling you its a established scientific fact.

"Seems like the loudest critics of self med are those who never did it themselves"

of course!, but what is the reason we dont do it? becuase its dangerous… its like saying that the loudest critics of driving drunk are those who never drive drunk, but we know that its dangerous, and we have our basis in all the people that die every year becuase of it, so you dont need to do something in order to know the risks.

it reminds me of people that will inject themselfs with olive oil in the butt to make it bigger, and many of them die!

so you dont want to pay for your safe HRT? i guess its not a priority for you? but its enough priority to risk killing your self? i dont get it.

> money < life

and you dont know how to set up the process? well i guess you are just lazy.



You're too scared I think. The risk of killing oneself is pretty low. Of course if self med was like 50% death rate, I would think twice. But a lot of people seem to self med just fine so I don't think it's as big of an issue as you're making it out to be.


i have done my part, warning you.



Self med doesn't mean just take whatever hormones without looking into it. It means doing research, looking at information like what you posted, asking questions etc


And actually that's why I made this thread, to see if anyone had any info. Doctors learn their information from researching and and studying it themselves, it doesn't just come to them from divine inspiration. So we can do something similar to the doctors by researching, and then self med.


i can recommend you to take no more than 200 mg of spironolactone, take 100, and take blood exam to know your testosterone levels, they need to be 0.1-1 pg/ml so almost 0, and if with 100 you dont get that, go up to 200, but i will recommend to not going more than 200 mg per day.

my dosage is
>every day
200 mg of spironolactone

1 mg of stradiol (brand progynova)


5 mg of medroxyprogesterone

>every 45 days
5 mg of stradiol intravenous injection (brand mesigyna)



Thanks for the advice. I wasn't planning to go above 200 mg of spiro. But do you take it once per day or divide up into two halves?


please dont compare information found in the internet to years of studies made in a unniversity.


i take all my pills in one go
the same hour, every day.

i donbt know if spliting them will make any difference